About Episode 72
In this episode of PhotoWork with Sasha Wolf, Sasha and photographer, Baldwin Lee discuss the first-ever publication of his work, eponymously titled, Baldwin Lee, published by Hunters Point Press. Baldwin and Sasha talk about his childhood years in Chinatown in New York City and then later studying with some of the most famous photographers of the times: Minor White and Walker Evans. They also have a provocative conversation about leaving photography behind once you believe you have completed your best work.
About Baldwin Lee
Baldwin Lee was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1951. In 1972 he received a BS from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he studied photography with Minor White, and in 1975 received an MFA from Yale University, where he studied with Walker Evans..
In 1982, he became an art professor at the University of Tennessee, where he founded the university’s photography program. He then decided to take a tour of the deep south, covering 2,000 miles over the course of ten days. During this trip, Lee widely photographed the people, landscapes, and cities of the south. After developing his photos, he realized that he had a particular passion for the African-American communities he had interacted with. He took numerous tours of the southern United States from 1983 to 1989, producing roughly 10,000 photographs. The majority of this work focused on the lives of low-income black Americans. When Lee arrived in a new town, he would visit the police station and let them know that he was planning to take photos with expensive photography equipment, so they could warn him about the poorer, redlined parts of town. Lee would then make a point of visiting these neighborhoods, since they had the highest concentration of black residents. In his work, Lee strived to represent his subjects as individuals with vibrant personalities, rather than reducing them to stereotypes or emphasizing their poverty. Lee retired from teaching in 2014, and is currently professor emeritus at University of Tennessee. He authored the monograph Baldwin Lee (2022), which was edited by Baeney Kulok and published by Hunter Point Press.
Lee has received recognition for his contributions to American photography. Imani Perry wrote that “Lee has a sensitive eye for both poverty and dignity”, describing him as “a witness to those at the bottom of U.S. stratification, and their refusal to swallow that status”. In a 2015 article in Time Magazine, photographer Mark Steinmetz wrote that Lee “produced a body of work that is among the most remarkable in American photography of the past half century”. Lee received a Guggenheim Foundation Fellowship in 1984, and a National Endowment for the Arts Fellowship in 1984 and 1987.
Is there an image of yours that stands out or is a favorite?
“As I rounded a corner several miles north of Natchez, Mississippi, a stunning sight – a brilliant pink stucco house framed by a blooming wisteria arbor caused me to pull over. I was compelled to knock on the door and found myself and Mr. and Mrs. Fulton, an elderly black couple standing in the cramped dimly lit kitchen whose illumination came from a bare-bulb hanging from the ceiling. Pushed up against a tattered refrigerator was a Formica table upon which provided a foundation for structure made of Kellog Cornflakes boxes. Each box bore a photograph of a beaming face. Boneheadedly I asked Mrs. Fulton if she liked cornflakes. With her gaze lowered she replied no. She then told me she disliked taking meals by herself now that her children had grown and gone.”
Baldwin Lee, Natchez, MS 1983
Is there an image by another photographer that has influenced you in your career?
The Robert Frank photograph of the very black woman and very white baby is the distillation of race, class, politics and economics in America (Robert Franklin, Charleston, SC 1955). The precious vulnerability of the baby who also serves as the surrogate of being the most valued being in life is contrasted with a person – who is beneath anonymity- relegated to a menial task with no status. The contradictions provide insight into the continuing tragedy of the south.
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Minor White, Walker Evans, Barney Kulok, Vince Aletti, Mark Steinmetz, Judith Joy Ross, Nicholas Nixon, August Sander, Ogden Museum
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